Showing posts with label Sammamish. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Sammamish. Show all posts

Dan - Sammamish 2005, 2012

Your Name

Dan

Gender

Male

Which describes your role at Mars Hill?

Regular Attender

What Mars Hill location(s) did you attend?

Sammamish

What years were you involved / attending?

2005, 2012

How did you first hear about Mars Hill?

I attended Mars Hill once many years ago in Ballard (probably 2005).  But did not became a regular attender until several years later -- when we moved back to Sammamish, and it had taken over the building there in 2012.  

What was the circumstance of your first time attending Mars HIll?

I had some friends who attended in Ballard and was intrigued with it because people described it as a church with a great missional focus on the city, with great music, focus on the arts.  I was also intrigued by its earlier mission focus on:  truth, beauty, meaning.  Being an artist and musician myself, this really resonated with me.

What were your first impressions?

I was impressed with Mark Driscoll's straight-forward, "cool", no-nonsense preaching style, and their focus on worship music, creating a beautiful space in the worship hall and fellowship center.

Why was Mars Hill your church home?

We were attending Evergreen Christian Church in Sammamish -- until the church folded and was taken over by Mars Hill Church.  Since we didn't have anywhere else to go at the time -- and were somewhat familiar with Mars Hill from our Ballard visit many years ago, we were just curious and decided to continue attending when Mars Hill took over the Sammamish building

What about your time at Mars Hill has had a positive impact on you?

Probably the number one positive thing I found about Mars Hill was the community groups.  And even as I started having growing disenchantment with some of Mark Driscoll's content, we continued to love going to the community group.

What about your time at Mars Hill has had a negative impact on you?

Probably my first negative impression, was ironically the FIRST sermon I heard there from the series "God's Work: Our Witness", where he described his Catholic upbringing and described Catholic priests as "men who wear dresses and don't have sex."    Having gotten to know many wonderful Catholic Christians during our few years we lived in Ireland, I found this comment rather ignorant and uncharitable. This anti-Catholic attitude came out again in his "Real Love" sermon series, where he again dismissed the early church fathers as being down on marriage and sex, and praising the Protestant Reformers for elevating it.  This got me to further research what some of these early church fathers actually said - and was quite surprised how much Mark Driscoll completely misquoted them. It was during this research of the early church that I became convinced Mark Driscoll was also wrong about infant baptism.

What would you like to have changed about Mars Hill?

I would have liked to see Mark Driscoll share the pulpit more. It began to become clear that Mars Hill was largely a one-man show (except when he was on leave)

Which describes you?

I left Mars Hill prior to closure.

Please describe why you left Mars Hill and what that experience was like.

We stayed at Mars Hill for about 9 months in 2012. I left Mars Hill long before the troubles with Mark Driscoll became widely known (his plagiarism, leadership conflicts, etc).  During this time, I found myself being increasingly drawn to more liturgical church traditions such as my Lutheran roots, Anglicanism, Orthodoxy, Catholicism.

How would you describe the reason for Mars Hill's closure to an outsider.

It seems to me that Mars Hill really could not survive long without Mark Driscoll. It really became more about Him as a "celebrity pastor". There was just not enough strong leadership to sustain the church under its current leadership structure.  

What's changed for you since your time at Mars Hill came to an end?

I became convinced that the Church cannot be the Church without a deep view of the sacraments or a strong ecclesiology: Eucharist, baptism, confession, etc. There had to be something else about the importance of Church than just the charisma of the leader or the quality of the music.  I came to the conclusion that all of contemporary Protestant Christianity really left a big hole without having a strong anchor to the traditions of the church (ie. the creeds, early church, etc.).  This left me either with the options of remaining Protestant and going with a more confessional/sacramental church (Presbyterian, Lutheran, Anglican), or the Orthodox or Catholic Church.  Although it is a bit of a long story, I eventually ended up in the Catholic Church about a year later because I became convinced that the antiquity, unity and global scope of Catholicism was where I belonged.

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Mars Hill to me became an icon of everything that was wrong with contemporary, evangelical Protestantism in general and the increasing division and fracturing in the body. That is, a Protestantism that has become increasingly divorced from the sacraments, and any sense of liturgical rhythm or confessional roots.  I realized there are many great Protestant churches out there that really get it -- and really put Christ first, as well as having a comprehensive mission of helping the poor, the wounded, the lost.  The idea of being "All about Jesus" was lost on Mars Hill Church.

Angela Giboney 1997-2014

Your Name

Angela Giboney

Gender

Female

Which describes your role at Mars Hill?

Regular Attender, Member, Group Leader (any leadership role)

What Mars Hill location(s) did you attend?

Ballard, Bellevue, Downtown Seattle, Lake City / Wedgewood, Portland, Shoreline, Sammamish, Tacoma, West Seattle

What years were you involved / attending?

1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014

How did you first hear about Mars Hill?

The person I was dating had played sports in high school with Mark. He told me about Mars Hill.

What was the circumstance of your first time attending Mars HIll?

It was at Laurel Hurst.

What were your first impressions?

Young, interesting, bible preaching, unusual music ever that sometimes was difficult to sing.

Why was Mars Hill your church home?

The people of Mars Hill loved and cared for me, I became a member and God made it clear it was home in this season.

What about your time at Mars Hill has had a positive impact on you?

God used the time at Mars Hill to move me from trusting Him with my eternity to trusting Him with my life.

What about your time at Mars Hill has had a negative impact on you?

Sadness that God's church was grown in way that included the pain of The body not giving the grace they have received and want to leaders when they sinned and were blind to their sin.

What would you like to have changed about Mars Hill?

Better communication and less fear.  More resources to children and a willingness to grow slower to ensure the people were not getting ahead of God's equipping.

Which describes you?

I stayed at Mars Hill through closure.

Please describe why you stayed at Mars Hill and what that experience was like.

God did not tell me to leave, so I stayed, so that I could be used for His glory where I was.

How would you describe the reason for Mars Hill's closure to an outsider.

Our church went through a difficult time and because of sin and fear that occurred over many years and the unforgiving response of some who claim to be Christians.  The plan for a long time was that if anything every happened to Mark the locations would each become different churches.  If Mark had stayed, the attention would have been on him, not on Jesus and for the safety and mental and physical protection of his children he could not continue in the same role.

What's changed for you since your time at Mars Hill came to an end?

It is hard to be excited about church to the degree we were before.  I have not yet heard from God where He wants me to declare membership.

Please write anything else you'd like to add.

God's church will continue to grow and many churches are being equipped with trained leaders for His glory, they are growing with people hungry for God and his word.  I wish God would have chosen a different solution, but God knows much better than I do what is necessary and best.

Staff - Sammamish 2004-14

Gender

Male

Which describes your role at Mars Hill?

Member, Group Leader (any leadership role), Staff

What Mars Hill location(s) did you attend?

Sammamish

What years were you involved / attending?

2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014

How did you first hear about Mars Hill?

College friend

What was the circumstance of your first time attending Mars HIll?

College friends brought me

What were your first impressions?

It was cool. The pastor was funny

Why was Mars Hill your church home?

I liked the teaching for most of the years

What about your time at Mars Hill has had a positive impact on you?

Learned a lot of theology the first few years

What about your time at Mars Hill has had a negative impact on you?

The staff culture was the worst culture of any of the companies I've worked for. Redemption groups were led by jerks who were totally unqualified for that role.

What would you like to have changed about Mars Hill?

It was a good thing to be mean to people who struggled with sin. Grace was spoken from pulpit but never given in real life.

Which describes you?

I left Mars Hill prior to closure.

Please describe why you left Mars Hill and what that experience was like.

The last 2 years, the teaching was awful. It was as if the Spirit had left.

The pastors at my location were some of the meanest people I have ever met.

Most of the pastors were unqualified and untrained.

How would you describe the reason for Mars Hill's closure to an outsider.

Mark stole a bunch of money from people and lied about a bunch of things.

What's changed for you since your time at Mars Hill came to an end?

Understanding of grace. I get it now. Though that word was taught, it was never practiced. Because I'd never seen someone give grace I had no idea what it actually was.

After leaving I understand what freedom feels like. I understand how a pastor should be. I am weary of most pastors now.

After leaving Mars Hill I found out God actually likes me.

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I could add pages but I'm typing this on my phone.